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Ukrainian naval drone makes contact with Russian Yury Ivanov-class intelligence ship Video
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u/GI_Bill_Trap_Lord 11d ago
“Let’s hope the Ukrainians didn’t have any cameras onboard these things and just fucking lie about it”
Fucking hell lmao
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u/BringBackAoE 11d ago
Ukraine being Ukraine have a camera on the very front of the drone. Honestly looks like my GoPro. 😂
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u/0xDD 11d ago
Honestly looks like my GoPro.
Well, if it's good enough for space, then I guess there is no reason not to use it in maritime environment, huh?
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u/BringBackAoE 11d ago
Would also be typical Ukraine to use off-the-shelf components.
The engine on the drone is one of the most popular engines for jet skis.
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u/blackholesun37 11d ago
I would be willing to bet that it IS a GoPro. They've been re-purposeing all kinds of off the shelf tech to make weapons. Just look at the madlad who was controlling a freaking machinegun turret with a SteamDeck
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u/False-God 11d ago
I feel it doesn’t get enough attention, but early war, I think around Pisky, there was a remote control BTR turret the Ukrainians built into a bunker that gave the Russians a really hard time trying to attack. Reportedly the Russians would lob grenades in, be confident nobody would be alive inside, then move up and take fire from the “cleared” bunker.
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u/ConfusedOrDazed 11d ago
Just look at the madlad who was controlling a freaking machinegun turret with a SteamDeck
I missed that, do you have a link?
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u/blackholesun37 11d ago
It's at about 34-40 seconds in, there's been a couple of articles that've come out about it too.
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u/TheBoRiley 11d ago
From my experience in racing games: Bumper POV is the best POV, if in cockpit is not an option.
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u/Boesesjoghurt 10d ago
Why force yourself behind a small windshield if you could use the bumper-cam instead? Imo other than for immersion bumper is the way to go.
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u/TheBoRiley 10d ago edited 10d ago
I go for in-cockpit for the immersion. I like to drift and autocross IRL when I can afford it and my drift car runs, so in cockpit is just more natural feeling to me. Bumper POV does give you unmatched view of the tarmac and apex's of corners and such.
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u/TXTCLA55 10d ago
It's like the drone video over the black sea all over again. Russia said the drone was out of control and they assisted in knocking it out of the sky... And then days later video footage direct from the drone, shows the Russian pilot repeating the same maneuver, dumping fuel, to knock out the drone.
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u/BazilBup 10d ago
You forget why Russian Government lie 🤥 they don't lie to cover something up they lie to insult your intellect.
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u/Signal_Watercress468 10d ago
Dated a Russian woman. Can confirm this is not just a government practice.
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u/killjoy_ua 11d ago
The usual plan is as follows:
- Assume something
- Let the Russians get tangled up in lies
- Release a proof
Works every fucking time.
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u/not5150
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wow you can see the gunfine hit the water around the drone
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u/Bangeederlander 11d ago
I wondered why Russia was so keen to release that video of one of them blowing up. Typical Russian play: They knew worse was to come and wanted to try and control the narrative.
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u/laukaus 11d ago
Yeah, it’s so funny that they were in huge hurry to release a clip showing “Russian supremacy “ while the fucking ship has a 500kg warhead coming for it from the other angle either at the same time or just after their clip lol.
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u/nachoolo 11d ago
Even the video they show is of one of this drones being hit dangerously close to the ship.
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u/TobysGrundlee 11d ago
Yeah, no way a naval ship in the middle of a war should've ever let anything get that close to it. That was a failure on it's own.
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u/Diablos_lawyer 11d ago
"Intelligence Ship"
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u/TobysGrundlee 11d ago
Right? Misnomer much?
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u/redviper192 11d ago
There seems to be a lot of "Never should this have even happened" going on on the Ruski side.
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u/Throwaway2Experiment 10d ago
It is actually very hard to detect small ships in these types of conditions shown in the video.
Once you do detect them, it is very difficult to shoot at said objects. Moving firing platform. Moving target. Etc.
Source: Have had to shoot at things from a ship before.
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u/Dividedthought 10d ago
It'd be funny to me if Ukraine strapped a bunch of RPG's to these things and used those to make the gunners duck.
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u/HGpennypacker 11d ago
Given the explosion in the prior video is it safe to say this this ship is unequivocally fucked?
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u/Dividedthought 10d ago
Fucked? Unlikely. Warships are tough.
In desperate need of repair? Definately.
This isn't situation like the Moskva from what I understand. Newer ship and the drone probably hit the area hardened for torpedo strikes.
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u/Danack 11d ago
has a 500kg warhead
Do you have a source for that?
I took a quick look at https://u24.gov.ua/navaldrones and it says 200kg for what I think is this type of drone. Still a lot, mind.
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u/donksdonks42 11d ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C_tvZufo4hE
This guy made a 15 min video I just watched (scroll to ~2/3rds in) which shows that it’s a modified jet ski with a 500 kg payload
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u/joesbagofdonuts 11d ago
It's hilarious how effective cheap, off the shelf, commercial crafts can be when outfitted with a remote control system and a bunch of explosives. We're talking about a $10k jet ski disabling a $10m+ warship.
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u/the_depressed_boerg 11d ago
That is probably more than $100m+ with the equipment, heck a single MBT costs around $10m new (or at least brand new Leo2)
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u/DeCiWolf 10d ago
That's H I Sutton, guy is a legendary Navy OSINT guy. Legit source.
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u/TzunSu 11d ago
That's somewhere around twice as much what almost sank the USS Cole, and that was in harbor with very quick access to extensive support. If it's not sunk, they were very, very lucky.
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u/hikariky 11d ago edited 11d ago
Anything smaller than “snapped the ship in half” isn’t going to sink anything unless it crosses two or more ( whatever the Russian navy builds to) water tight compartments. Which means they have to either have a really in-depth knowledge of the ship or they get like 1/5 lucky. The cole is still sailing. And you aren’t breaking a ship in half with an exterior above waterline hit to the ass. Not that it matters because at the very least this ships propulsion is fucked and it’ll be out for a year or more. I’d put money down that the dod instructed them to aim for props and rudders with these things when we first gave them to them.
Edit: it denotes right in the middle of what is either the aft most compartment or, or two really small compartments+ Weather is fine=This ship is getting a tow.
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u/EuroFoster 11d ago
Anything smaller than “snapped the ship in half” isn’t going to sink anything unless it crosses two or more ( whatever the Russian navy builds to) water tight compartments.
That wasn't necessary to sink the Moskva. An explosion and a fire can wreak havoc.
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u/TzunSu 11d ago edited 11d ago
A 500kg charge will absolutely penetrate several compartments. The Cole is still sailing, but it was hit with a much smaller charge, and with very good support very fast, and some of the best trained damage control parties in the world. No one has claimed it would be "broken in half". The USS Cole was a more heavily built ship, built for direct combat, with a much higher displacement, and with a lot more reserve buoyancy, and in that attack several compartments were breached and it took 3 days to get the damage under control.
To put it into context, a WW2 US Mark 14 torpedo carried 292 kg of torpex, which is a mix of mostly TNT and RDX, and that has destroyed more then it's fair share of much more heavily constructed vessels.
Assuming this is an RDX (or comparable) charge which is likely, you're looking at more then twice that level of destruction.
Are these not Toloka TLK-150 drones, developed in Ukraine?
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u/Cabana_bananza 11d ago
Though if you fuck up the drive section of a boat you will take it out of commission for months. Who knows the turn around of a Russian naval ship during peace time, let alone wartime.
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u/Call_Me_Rivale 11d ago
Well, sinking it and getting it out of use for the foreseeable future is not to big of a difference. Even if you sink it sailors have good chance of survival in these scenarios. So this is more about denying the sea/space, than anything else.
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u/SCARfaceRUSH 11d ago edited 10d ago
9 years of war under absolutely false pretences, MH17 tragedy and cover up, hundreds of fake stories, doctored photos, doctored videos, straight out lies and manufacture of "facts" ... yet there are still people on the Internet that use Russian sources as some form of valid information or consult them to get "both sides".
There are literally people in the comments here questioning the video because its darker than the video released by the Russians. Shocker: two cameras with different sensors and positioned differently related to the sun can produce different brightness levels.
Btw, this is what Russia does. Their goal is not to convince you of their rhetoric. Their goal is to convince you that the truth is not actually the truth, but merely one of the options.
It's a meme in Ukraine: Russian TV hosts used to throw around "not everything is so clear" (не все так однозначно) or a better adopted phrase would be "it's not that clear up, as it seems." They would use it at the end of their segments as a way of hinting at certain conclusions or lack of certainty around them. So we used this phrase in Ukraine to mock their lies.
Example: Some guys in Belgorod with yellow tape on their arms and riding Humvees? Well, it's not that clear cut. You could theoretically buy Humvees from Afghanistan, as US left a lot of them there. You can buy them in any local airsoft store, actually.
EDIT: Russian Telegrams started releasing an apparent photo of the ship presumably returning to port in Sevastopol. Turns out, it's a two-year old video from a different location.
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u/PDXburrito 11d ago
This is exactly what Elon has been doing on Twitter. Amplifying conspiracy theorists, insurrectionists, and right-wingers with carefully-put comments like "interesting" and "worrisome" and "concerning". He's using his platform to mold reality in his favor.
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u/wary 11d ago
Questioning everything and anything is how most people these days cover up their ignorance and lack of knowledge. Instead of staying quiet and appearing foolish they open their mouths and remove all doubt
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u/International-Ing 11d ago
I'm sure they also want to control the narrative about the port quarter of the ship being defenseless. Which is a pretty embarrassing design defect, even if it's an intelligence collection ship.
There's some splicing because the drone turns around to evade fire from the port bow gun and then maneuvers behind and into the port quarter where there is no close in armanent. The MTPU on the port bow can't cover the port quarter. The blind spot is actually surprisingly large. Of course they could maneuver to engage but didn't.
Which makes me wonder if they ran out of ammo which would be even more embarrassing.
There are 2 x 14.5 MTPU forward and 1 x 14.5 MTPU starboard quarter. Some sites say only 2 x MTPU forward, but recent video and image of the ship shows they added the one on the starboard quarter at some point.
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u/Old_Wallaby_7461 11d ago
I'm surprised they didn't have a corvette or something covering it. The drones are a known quantity. Still overconfident, I guess...
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u/JennysDad 10d ago
They can't risk ANY capital ships, they are very afraid of the drones.
The intelligence ship was put at risk because they desperately need intelligence on the upcoming offensive.
Now they'll get nothing. Fuck Putin.
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u/Roflkopt3r 11d ago
I wonder, do ships like this usually operate with escorts? Even if they're "intelligence" ships, I believe that rather referrs to their sensors than being especially "sneaky".
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u/CorsicA123 11d ago
It goes even further. They used 2 year old video of the same ship entering Sevastopol to prove its undamaged. Later, after everyone pointed out the video, they actually made very similar ship enter the bay, to make similar looking photos
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u/AngryRussia 11d ago
"Yo Zelenski, Let's load a shit ton of explosives to 500 buck craft and ram it to billionaire warship."
"Excellent idea."
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u/LagMeister 11d ago
It's around 250k per drone, still worth it though.
Source: https://u24.gov.ua/navaldrones (scroll all the way down).
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u/False-God 11d ago
When you compare it to the cost of other ordinance it is a bargain. That’s around what a Javelin missile costs.
Neptune rockets are estimated to cost $1.35 million per
Harpoon Block II is estimated to be $1.4 million per
Patriot is estimated at $4 million per
$250k per for a weapon that can effectively deny areas to large surface fleets is a steal.
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u/Roflkopt3r 11d ago
And the cost of a ship like this is probably in the hundred millions.
Trying to put Russian equipment cost into dollar prices has limited use, but any way you cut it it's worth the drones many times over.
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u/pipnina 11d ago
The REFIT cost for royal navy frigates can be budgeted at £60 million plus
Those frigates use 1980s technology (gun even controlled with DOS) so almost all the cost comes from how labour intensive they are to maintain and how fast the sea eats away at their steel hulls.
I was working in one of the machine rooms on a frigate that came in, the deck was so so rusted (top of a tank so not direct sea exposure, outside of potentially leaking pipes) that layer upon layer came off. I walked past hatch coaming that had holes around it once the concrete layer was removed and we were walking on steel.
Each frigate takes several hundred weld inserts to the external and external structure every decade or so. Ships are EXPENSIVE, so insanely expensive, and wear out fast.
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u/devilishycleverchap 10d ago
Yeah the biggest expense on a navy is the maintenance. China is about to reach a reckoning with all those ships they built as they come up on their maintenance cycles
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u/JamboFreshOk 11d ago
The West needs to learn from this. Our powerful navies could have real trouble against Chinese mass production of similar weapons.
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u/der_innkeeper 11d ago
This has been the Iranian playbook since the 80s.
The USN/NATO is well aware of asymmetric naval warfare. It was the primary driver of CIWS upgrades in the late 90s/early 00s.
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u/SteveD88 11d ago
I remember a naval officer explaining to me that the British Type 45 guided missile destroyer (effectively just a massive platform to hoist a very powerful radar as high as possible) was intended to counter both sea-skimming missiles and detect boat/drone swarms at a range they could be dealt with.
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u/RoyalwithCheese10 11d ago
The difference is the US Navy is functional and its CIWS work
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u/Daxtatter 11d ago
Honestly I think suicide drone boats like this would be a great defensive measure for Taiwan.
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u/Phaarao 11d ago
Unlike Ukraine, Taiwan has thousands of modern antiship missile (more than enough for every troop carrier of China) which are far more effective than these slow ass drones.
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u/BlackAlbinoTurtle 11d ago
CIWS work
As long as there's someone to change it to auto.
Saw a video form Operations Room where a US Ship got hit, the CWIS was tracking the plane and missile but they "forgot" to set to fire mode.
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u/Jaqen___Hghar 10d ago
An operator must manually authorize discharge (like a trigger) for each target that is tracked. An entirely automatic system would inevitably fire upon friendly and civilian aircraft.
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u/delcas1016 11d ago
The USA Navy has been facing mass Iranian speed boats for over a decade in the gulf, the strategy is very well known. I’m not saying they’ve actually attacked, but they like to flex their muscle and unleash chaos in close proximity.
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u/listeningwind42 11d ago
yep. It's just Jeune Ecole in modern times. It might cause some tactical adjustments but it isn't going to be a real threat long term.
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u/TheSaltyPeasant 11d ago
The US military has plenty of countermeasures for this kind of stuff. Same for standard drones, all the stuff you see of drones hovering over Russian troops and dropping grenades wouldn’t work against the US.
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u/Wise-Profile4256 11d ago
Now the German-Japanese co-development for drones in the Pacific makes a lot more sense.
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u/ashesofempires 11d ago
Uh, not to burst your bubble, but some of the naval drones Ukraine is using, are from the US.
They were first handed over last June as part of an aid package announced in May. The crazy footage we saw of them attacking ships in Sevastopol is of American naval drones.
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u/max_k23 11d ago
Uh, not to burst your bubble, but some of the naval drones Ukraine is using, are from the US.
Yes they've been using them indeed, but those suicide USVs are manufactured in Ukraine mostly with COTS components.
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u/trevdak2 11d ago
Thought those were canoes outfitted with starlink and outboard motors.
Sounds like im joking but I'm not.
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u/ozarkansas 11d ago
That sort of thing is what the littoral combat ship is supposed to protect against. That program has been a total cluster though
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u/killjoy_ua 11d ago edited 11d ago
Must be embarrassing to lose to a nation without proper Navy. But given the Black Sea Fleet reputation, that's perfectly normal.
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u/GoodByeRubyTuesday87 11d ago
They’re losing a naval war to a country without a proper navy. Even more amazing.
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u/Peacer13 11d ago
Can't lose a naval war if it's a "special military operation".
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u/GQ_Quinobi 11d ago
Would be helpful if this regime thought this way but they just find a person to blame and do a balcony toss.
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u/Ismokeditalleveryday 11d ago
Those Ukrainian naval drones pack a big explosive, that spy ship was definitely damaged.
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u/notataco007 11d ago
Aimed right near the rudder and props too
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u/DoktorFisse 11d ago
Is this a particular weak spot on such a boat?
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u/2022wtf 11d ago
Bismarck was only caught after her rudder was jammed by a lucky torpedo hit.
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u/ChairmanMatt 11d ago
And Prince of Wales, which had successfully torpedobeated like 20+, was done in by a single torpedo impact at the rear which damaged a propeller shaft (which pokes out through a ideally-well-sealed hole beneath the waterline), and led to massive uncontrollable flooding
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u/Rexster405 10d ago
might sound like a nerd but bismarck was the only ship to be referred to as
"he" since the Germans thought it was too powerful to be a she.
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u/TheOtherDrunkenOtter 11d ago edited 11d ago
Im surprised im only seeing one person give an accurate answer. Yes, the props in particular are a weak spot.
The prop shaft typically runs a relatively large proportion of the ship, will bend and flex and shift and rarely even "whip" under the best of circumstances.
This "flexing" tube is not only positioned at one of the few points where the hull has a gap below sea level, but it also penetrates every single waterproof compartment that the shaft is passing through.
It also takes an enormous amount of stress due to the volume of water it is shifting and the typical length of a warship shaft.
So flexible tube taking immense stress at holes that need to stay sealed? Its a weak spot on all warships. Im sure Russian engineering only enhances that. Added link of battleship new jerseys prop shaft, obviously different sizes but same conversation here.
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u/Smoogs2 11d ago
Weak spot in that if you disable the rudder with an explosion, the ship can become unable to steer. This is how the Bismarck sank. But a single explosion (of this size) to the rudder will unlikely be able to sink a warship (of this size).
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u/forte2 11d ago edited 11d ago
As long as you actually close your watertight compartments up.
I'd wager the reason Moskva sank was because she wasn't buttoned up and more compartments flooded than she could handle. The last image of her she was heavily listing and down in the water.
While she was hit amidships there was soot from all her port side portholes which would correlate to fire spreading past bulkheads which should have prevented that.
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u/Smoogs2 11d ago
As long as you actually close your watertight compartments up.
Yeah and Mosk was hit with multiple missiles and the ammo storage exploded, so the explosions spanned multiple bulkheads and was internal. This is one drone boat explosion which would only span 1 bulkhead, 2 at absolute most. Mosk probably was flooding via 3-4 bulkheads after their ammo storage detonated.
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u/holysmartone 11d ago
Not necessarily weaker, but attacking the props and rudder can take out propulsion and steering and make the ship unable to maneuver, which is obviously a very bad thing.
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u/BigHekigChungus 11d ago
Yea. Rudders and props are exposed in the water. The driveshaft will get messed up from the explosion. Hopefully the engines are messed up too, since Russia can’t easily replace those.
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u/sciotomile 11d ago
One of the missiles that struck the Moskva was targeted onto the rudder. You hear in the SOS call that was posted here a week or so ago that they were struck in the tail and the rudder was struck and inoperative.
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u/befowler 11d ago
A lot of people seem confused by the “contact” title — we know from Russia’s own footage that these drones pack a serious explosive punch, and the feed cutting out here is because it successfully detonated. It did not need to actually touch the ship, although from the approach vector it probably did and the feed delay just didn’t transmit it in time. Regardless, detonating that close to the waterline of a warship with little or no armor is going to do a lot of damage. The USS Cole is an example, where a small boat holding explosives pulled up alongside and blew a 40 foot hole in the hull.
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u/ChrisBPeppers 11d ago
It might have hit the vessel. There's always a delay on these videos so the last seconds are missing
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u/pm0me0yiff 10d ago
And the Cole was a bigger ship with better armor.
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u/degotoga 10d ago
that was a shaped charge using more explosive tho. iirc this is just a 500lb bomb
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u/the_other_OTZ 11d ago
Aftermath would be great to see.
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u/Shaelz 11d ago
Guessing it didn't sink the ship or we would have heard ?
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u/Pokuo 11d ago
So far only thing we've heard was Russian claim they destroyed 150% of the attacking drones, so it's not out of the question that it's resting at the bottom of the Black Sea right now.
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u/Strong-Obligation107 11d ago
Unlikely that it would sink the ship, but if it detonated successfully then that ship is definitely going back to port for extensive repairs and some sailors will require new eardrums.... and pants.
But then again, it's a Russian ship so there's a fare chance in mostly fiberglass and ali express "quacktape"
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u/SuppliceVI 10d ago
It took about a week for actual confirmation of the Moskva to sink.
Give it time. At the very least it won't be collecting intelligence for months
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u/OTL22 11d ago
"Yeah we destroyed all them drones"
Did you though?
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u/killjoy_ua 11d ago
Yeah, technically all the drones were destroyed, including this one. You gotta read Russian statements between the lines.
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u/TheHyperion25 11d ago
If it was armed like that one in the other video that got blown up, this did some serious damage.
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u/kuprenx 11d ago
imagine beeing WW2 soldier and seeing like POV view of torpedo
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u/Weird-Tomorrow-9829 11d ago
I mean the German Neger and Japanese Kaiten had POV’s from torpedoes.
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u/_HIST 11d ago
Kaitens were insane. Openable only from the outside, a complete suicide mission even if you miss. Also turned out to be rather useless
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u/pm0me0yiff 10d ago
Openable only from the outside, a complete suicide mission even if you miss.
Probably helps with the ol' motivation for their suicide pilots. If you're guaranteed to die either way, you might as well go through with it and try to make an effective hit.
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u/jdsekula 10d ago
Kind of gives away that their “volunteers” weren’t exactly 100% willing.
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u/Wolfgang3750 11d ago
If you're looking for the other video that shows one of these drones being countered: That's a big boom.
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u/anonspas 11d ago
Fucking hell, that must have done a lot of dmg when this hit the ship!
Nice!
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u/chronic221987 11d ago
If this had the same payload as the one that was destroyed. Then it was big boom.
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u/__radioactivepanda__ 10d ago
The Russians weren’t lying that all drone ships were intercepted. It’s just that at least one was intercepted with a warship’s hull…
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u/UnusualTough3293 11d ago
If it’s explosive payload is same as drone Russian ship took out….. this thing messed some stuff up on that boat!
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u/TS_76 11d ago
Going to guess that this one happened AFTER the video of the first one we saw. If it happened the other way around, i'm pretty sure the guy taking the video would have something better to be doing.. like damage control.
Also, the fact we saw any video from the Russian POV tells me the ship likely didnt sink. For one, if it sank the guy taking the video might be, yeh know, dead.. as Russian Search and Rescue is sub optimal. Assuming hes not dead, I doubt the Russians would release video like that of a ship that ultimately sunk. You can lie about taking a hit, but a warship totally disappearing and not returning to port is going to raise a lot of question from families.
I'm going to go with first video destroyed (obviously), and this video the ship took a hit (obviously) but did not sink unfortunately.
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u/FrankExchange0fViews 11d ago
the guy taking the video would have something better to be doing.. like damage control.
Damage control? On a russian warship? They don't do that there.
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u/zuff 11d ago
In previous russian news video first thing being said is "all enemy boats were destroyed". Well, they technically aren't wrong.
Was impressed that russian news for once speak truth, but not for long, next phrase was "destroyed by our ships weapons". Oh well.
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u/Enigma556 11d ago
And then what happened?
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u/InterestingCell6403 11d ago
Rest in peace to the Tiny Cameraman recording this Wonderful piece of War Footage🙏
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u/broforwin 11d ago edited 11d ago
Well we only saw footage of one of them being blown up. Also it was very bright in that footage. This footage looks like early morning or evening-ish?
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u/1nfinitydividedby0 11d ago
I don't think it is pragmatic to judge time of day by brightness levels of two different cameras.
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u/GI_Bill_Trap_Lord 11d ago
Don’t tell /r/UFOs that
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u/FloatingRevolver 11d ago
That sub is nuts... Everyone there KNOWS that every post is real or fake, those psychos can never just be like "idk man"
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u/fanspacex 11d ago
With Russians you have to assume 100% lies when they speak, this number can be reduced by further investigating the claims.
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u/polerize 10d ago
Drones are cheap. Ships are expensive. Going to have to figure out how to deal with drones if you want to keep your boats on the water instead of under.
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u/Blade_000 10d ago
Marine Traffic shows a Russian vessel in that area moving at a slow speed and accompanied by a Tug. https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:29.728/centery:42.225/zoom:14
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u/xXDelta33Xx 11d ago
one actually made it through?